Though there were some highlights in the next week and a half …
… it didn’t end well …
… though losing the World Series is better than not getting there.
Though there were some highlights in the next week and a half …
… it didn’t end well …
… though losing the World Series is better than not getting there.
Paul Starobin suggests maybe the United States of America needs to no longer be united:

Picture an America that is run not, as now, by a top-heavy Washington autocracy but, in freewheeling style, by an assemblage of largely autonomous regional republics reflecting the eclectic economic and cultural character of the society.
There might be an austere Republic of New England, with a natural strength in higher education and technology; a Caribbean-flavored city-state Republic of Greater Miami, with an anchor in the Latin American economy; and maybe even a Republic of Las Vegas with unfettered license to pursue its ambitions as a global gambling, entertainment and conventioneer destination. California? America’s broke, ill-governed and way-too-big nation-like state might be saved, truly saved, not by an emergency federal bailout, but by a merciful carve-up into a trio of republics that would rely on their own ingenuity in making their connections to the wider world. And while we’re at it, let’s make this project bi-national—economic logic suggests a natural multilingual combination between Greater San Diego and Mexico’s Northern Baja, and, to the Pacific north, between Seattle and Vancouver in a megaregion already dubbed “Cascadia” by economic cartographers.
Devolved America is a vision faithful both to certain postindustrial realities as well as to the pluralistic heart of the American political tradition—a tradition that has been betrayed by the creeping centralization of power in Washington over the decades but may yet reassert itself as an animating spirit for the future. Consider this proposition: America of the 21st century, propelled by currents of modernity that tend to favor the little over the big, may trace a long circle back to the original small-government ideas of the American experiment. The present-day American Goliath may turn out to be a freak of a waning age of politics and economics as conducted on a super-sized scale—too large to make any rational sense in an emerging age of personal empowerment that harks back to the era of the yeoman farmer of America’s early days. The society may find blessed new life, as paradoxical as this may sound, in a return to a smaller form.
This perspective may seem especially fanciful at a time when the political tides all seem to be running in the opposite direction. In the midst of economic troubles, an aggrandizing Washington is gathering even more power in its hands. The Obama Administration, while considering replacing top executives at Citigroup, is newly appointing a “compensation czar” with powers to determine the retirement packages of executives at firms accepting federal financial bailout funds. President Obama has deemed it wise for the U.S. Treasury to take a majority ownership stake in General Motors in a last-ditch effort to revive this Industrial Age brontosaurus. Even the Supreme Court is getting in on the act: A ruling this past week awarded federal judges powers to set the standards by which judges for state courts may recuse themselves from cases.
All of this adds up to a federal power grab that might make even FDR’s New Dealers blush. But that’s just the point: Not surprisingly, a lot of folks in the land of Jefferson are taking a stand against an approach that stands to make an indebted citizenry yet more dependent on an already immense federal power. The backlash, already under way, is a prime stimulus for a neo-secessionist movement, the most extreme manifestation of a broader push for some form of devolution. In April, at an anti-tax “tea party” held in Austin, Governor Rick Perry of Texas had his speech interrupted by cries of “secede.” The Governor did not sound inclined to disagree. “Texas is a unique place,” he later told reporters attending the rally. “When we came into the Union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.”
Such sentiments resonate beyond the libertarian fringe. The Daily Kos, a liberal Web site, recently asked Perry’s fellow Texas Republicans, “Do you think Texas would be better off as an independent nation or as part of the United States of America? It was an even split: 48% for the U.S., 48% for a sovereign Texas, 4% not sure. Amongst all Texans, more than a third—35%—said an independent Texas would be better. The Texas Nationalist Movement claims that over 250,000 Texans have signed a form affirming the organization’s goal of a Texas nation.
Secessionist feelings also percolate in Alaska, where Todd Palin, husband of Governor Sarah Palin, was once a registered member of the Alaska Independence Party. But it is not as if the Right has a lock on this issue: Vermont, the seat of one of the most vibrant secessionist movements, is among the country’s most politically-liberal places. Vermonters are especially upset about imperial America’s foreign excursions in hazardous places like Iraq. The philosophical tie that binds these otherwise odd bedfellows is belief in the birthright of Americans to run their own affairs, free from centralized control. Their hallowed parchment is Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence, on behalf of the original 13 British colonies, penned in 1776, 11 years before the framers of the Constitution gathered for their convention in Philadelphia. “The right of secession precedes the Constitution—the United States was born out of secession,” Daniel Miller, leader of the Texas Nationalist Movement, put it to me. Take that, King Obama.
This dovetails with a report by the Telegraph’s Nile Gardiner:
A new Rasmussen poll shows just how disillusioned Americans have become with the direction of their own country, over four and a half years since President Obama took office. According to Rasmussen, barely a third of US voters think the nation’s Founding Fathers would view the United States as a success today. 49 percent think the opposite:
A new Rasmussen poll shows just how disillusioned Americans have become with the direction of their own country, over four and a half years since President Obama took office. According to Rasmussen, barely a third of US voters think the nation’s Founding Fathers would view the United States as a success today. 49 percent think the opposite:
Abraham Lincoln famously declared at Gettysburg that the Founding Fathers “brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.” But half of Americans think the Founding Fathers would view the nation they created as a failure today.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 34% of American Adults think that if the Founding Fathers came back today, they would consider the United States a success. Forty-nine percent (49%), however, say the founders of this nation would view what it’s become as a failure. Seventeen percent (17%) are not sure.
There is a considerable ideological divide between Republicans and Democrats in how they respond to this question, though even among Democrats just over half deliver a positive answer:
Fifty-one percent (51%) of Democrats think the Founding Fathers would consider the United States a success. Sixty-two percent (62%) of Republicans and 55% of those not affiliated with either major party believe the Founding Fathers would view America as a failure.
Significantly, the Rasmussen survey shows strong distrust of the federal government, whose powers have risen significantly since the Obama administration took office:
One of the key foundational concepts in the Declaration of Independence which Lincoln referred to “four score and seven years ago” is that “governments derive their only just powers from the consent of the governed.” Just 17% of Likely U.S. Voters now think the federal government has that consent.
Rasmussen’s gloomy assessment reflects the disillusionment expressed in other major polls that ask Americans whether they believe the United States is moving in the “right direction” or “wrong track.” The recent CBS News/ New York Times poll for example showed 66 percent of Americans believing that the country is moving down the wrong path, with just 29 percent disagreeing. The RealClear Politics average of several polls for the month of September puts the “right direction” figure at 27 percent, and the “wrong track” number at 63.6 percent.
It will be hard for the White House to dismiss these findings as anything other than a resounding vote of no confidence in President Obama’s leadership from half the country. A Gallup poll released in July, asking a similar question, was just as bad, with 71 percent of Americans saying the Founding Fathers “would be disappointed” with “the way the United States has turned out,” up from 50 percent in 2004, and around 60 percent in 2009.
Note on the map the North Star Republic, which is …
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This, however, may be less than current, based on a 2007 blog commentary …
I give them credit for being overt in their goals and for asking feedback.
As a Badger (Wisconsinite) let me answer, the idea is stupid.
The surest way for my community to lower its individual freedoms and options, standard of living, and future prospects is to go Communists/Socialist and disconnect from the rest of the USA (not to mention how many citizens will be executed to secure the continued harmony of the People’s Republic).
They do not plan to implement this through politics. They plan to do this through violence (they are in the early planning stages) …
One assumes this was before Gov. Scott Walker defanged the public employee unions. You have to be a unique level of moron to believe in a system that killed more than 100 million people during the 20th century. Just in case, though, I should start researching moving vans from here to Texas.
The Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto:
“An old friend who has been active in politics for more than 30 years tells me he’s giving up,” claims Robert Reich in a Puffington Host post: ” ‘I can’t stomach what’s going on in Washington anymore,’ he says. ‘The hell with all of them. I have better things to do with my life.’ ”
Reich is a proven fabulist, so one has to assume any story he tells is a tall tale. But we’re interested in the supposed moral of the parable of Reich’s Disgusted Imaginary Friend: “My friend is falling exactly into the trap that the extreme right wants all of us to fall into–such disgust and cynicism that we all give up on politics.” The “Tea Bag Republicans,” as the homophobic Reich calls them, “want to sow even greater cynicism about the capacity of government to do much of anything.”In reality, nobody is more disgusted or cynical about government than Tea Party activists themselves–and they have much to be cynical about. The Washington Examiner reports that TeaParty.net “has finally received its tax-exempt status after a three-year delay” caused by the repurposing of the Internal Revenue Service into a political operation aimed at suppressing opposition to Barack Obama’s re-election campaign. …
Cynicism is often, as we’ve noted, a product of disappointed idealism–of naiveté being crushed by reality. If Obama’s supporters have been turning cynical, it is because the falseness of his promises is finally becoming undeniable. Take ObamaCare. He promised to accomplish the impossible: to guarantee health care to everyone, offering both higher quality and lower cost than under the (admittedly far from optimal) status quo ante.
The San Jose Mercury News reports on the reality:
Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama.
Yet, like many other Bay Area residents who pay for their own medical insurance, they were floored last week when they opened their bills: Their policies were being replaced with pricier plans that conform to all the requirements of the new health care law.
Vinson, of San Jose, will pay $1,800 more a year for an individual policy, while Waschura, of Portola Valley, will cough up almost $10,000 more for insurance for his family of four. . . .
“I was laughing at Boehner–until the mail came today,” Waschura said, referring to House Speaker John Boehner, who is leading the Republican charge to defund Obamacare.
“I really don’t like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family’s pocket each year, that’s otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy.” . . .
“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”
Reich acknowledges that ObamaCare “is hardly perfect,” but he insists “the president cannot re-negotiate the Affordable Care Act” because that would mean giving in to the Republicans: “If you give in to bullies, their bullying only escalates.” America is stuck with this monstrous law because the alternative would be too costly to Obama’s pride. Disgust and cynicism seems an entirely appropriate reaction.
Then we have the government shutdown, which the Obama administration has been working to make as painful as possible. FoxNews.com has a list of “7 Things the Government Shut Down That Saved Practically Nothing,” including websites (whose content not only isn’t being updated but has been taken off-line altogether); public parks (such as the normally unattended World War II memorial, which has been fenced off and patrolled by rangers to keep citizens away); and even privately run parks that happen to be situated on public land.
Obama explained his shutdown tactics at a White House press conference yesterday:
Q: Mr. President, while you’re waiting for the shutdown to end, why is it that you can’t go along with any of the bills the House is passing funding the FDA and FEMA, where you were yesterday, and veterans benefits and Head Start? You’ve got to be tempted to sign those bills and get funding to those programs that you support.
Obama: Of course I’m tempted, because you’d like to think that you could solve at least some of the problem if you couldn’t solve all of it.
But here’s the problem. What you’ve seen are bills that come up where wherever Republicans are feeling political pressure, they put a bill forward. And if there’s no political heat, if there’s no television story on it, then nothing happens. And if we do some sort of shotgun approach like that, then you’ll have some programs that are highly visible get funded and reopened, like national monuments, but things that don’t get a lot of attention, like those SBA loans, not being funded.
By the president’s own admission, it’s all about jockeying for political advantage. Arguably it’s working: The Associated Press reports its new poll suggests the Republicans are “taking the biggest hit in public opinion from the shutdown”: “Overall, 62 percent mainly blamed Republicans for the shutdown. About half said Obama or the Democrats in Congress bear much responsibility.” Congress’s approval rating is at a laughable 5%, though Obama’s is 37%, almost as bad by presidential standards.
But again, cynicism and disgust seem entirely appropriate responses. Ronald Reagan was the last president who had a basic skepticism of Big Government, but Barack Obama may end up having done more than any of his predecessors to promote that feeling among the public.
Another example of the fraud that is Barack Obama comes from a comparison of Obama’s comments at a January 2011 event after the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D–Arizona) and his news conference Tuesday, as recorded by Rush Limbaugh:
2011: “At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized …”
Tuesday: “Extortion, insane, catastrophic, chaos.”
2011: “We are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently.”
Tuesday: “You have some ideological extremist, extreme Republicans.”
2011: “It’s important for us to pause for a moment.”
Tuesday: “We’re not going to pay a ransom, you don’t pay a ransom, demand a ransom.”
2011: “And make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals.”
Tuesday: “You do not hold people hostage.”
2011: “Not in a way that wounds.”
Tuesday: “Ransom-taking or hostage-taking.”
2011: “Usher in more civility in our public discourse.”
Tuesday: “Burn down the plant or your office.”
2011: “Only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face the challenges of our nation.”
Tuesday: “I’m going to burn down your house.”
2011: “Not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness.”
Tiuesday: “Tea Party Republicans flirted with the idea of default, a nuclear bomb.”
2011: “We should do everything we can do to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations.”
Tuesday: “You’re just a deadbeat.”
Nile Gardiner of London’s Telegraph observes:
I’ve just watched Barack Obama’s press conference at the White House, where the president has been talking about the government shutdown and the possibility of a US default over the debt ceiling. It wasn’t a pretty sight. The most powerful man on earth, the leader of the free world,lashed out at conservatives in Congress (whom he labeled as “extremists”), accusing them of “ransom” and “extortion,” even comparing them to a “deadbeat” who doesn’t pay the mortgage.
This was a childish, as well as unpleasant, display of petulance by Mr. Obama, who treats elected officials as though they were puppets who should dance to his tune. It was followed by an embarrassing set of hand-picked questions from a largely subservient liberal-dominated media, none of which seriously challenged the president’s policies or his handling of the shutdown. In the UK, a British prime minister would never get away with this kind of performance without a barrage of relentlessly tough questioning.
Barack Obama’s approach today was imperial in style, both arrogant and condescending, and deeply partisan in outlook. There was not a hint of humility on show from the president, against a backdrop of declining poll numbers and mounting disillusionment with his presidency. The United States is facing the prospect of a default overwhelmingly because of Obama’s big spending, big government programmes, which have added a staggering $6 trillion to the national debt. The shutdown has been prompted by the imposition of a hugely unpopular health care reform, forced on the American people despite the fact that the Democrats no longer control the House of Representatives. This is a president who is incapable of taking responsibility for his own actions, who refuses to listen to any criticism of his policies, and is more willing to negotiate with a state sponsor of terrorism in Tehran than sit down with Republicans in Congress.
Proving that there is no accounting for taste, I present the number one song today in 1960:
The number two single today in 1970 was originally written for a bank commercial:
Britain’s number one album today in 1970 was Black Sabbath’s “Paranoid”:
With the doom news of the past weeks, not to mention the unwanted publicity the world’s greatest marching band has been getting, read this UW Health item:
Music has the power to enliven, encourage, inspire and heal. It’s no wonder, then, that an emblem of Badger spirit and tradition, the UW Madison Marching Band, is joining with theUW Carbone Cancer Center to Band Together to Beat Cancer.
This November 9, as the Badger football team faces Brigham Young University, the marching band will take the field wearing black sashes to show their support for cancer patients and their families. Between now and October 18, people can donate to have the name of a loved one placed on the sash a band member will wear throughout the day. Donors receive the sash after the game.
Donate before Oct. 18 at uwhealth.org/beatcancer
The uniform of each band member is worn with pride, but it’s more than just a uniform. “It’s unadorned,” says band director Mike Leckrone, “and it signifies what we are as a group.”
Yet, on November 9, members’ uniforms will be adorned for the first time.
Leckrone, now starting his 45th year at the helm of the UW Marching Band, is a Wisconsin icon. He, too, will wear a sash, because he is one of the band, and because he knows personally what it’s like to fight cancer. Members of his immediate family have battled the disease and Mike himself was treated for prostate cancer at the UW Carbone Cancer Center.
But it is his focus on the band that frames his desire to help.
When the group met on a muggy late-August evening to discuss Band Together to Beat Cancer, Leckrone guessed aloud that despite their ages, everyone there had probably been touched by the disease. Looking up, he saw each head nodding in the unison.
“In that moment, I knew that every person there was thinking of a loved one who had faced cancer,” says Leckrone. “If nothing else, this partnership will impact the 300 people in that room.”
News about Raiolagate, from the Detroit Lions:
Detroit Lions center Dominic Raiola has personally apologized to University of Wisconsin Band Director Michael Leckrone for inappropriate remarks he made to members of the band before Sunday’s game in Green Bay.
Raiola had a phone conversation with Leckrone on Tuesday and also indicated that he was making a significant donation to The Marching Band Fund, which supports Wisconsin’s Marching Band.
“My interaction with the Wisconsin Marching Band was inappropriate,” Raiola said in a statement released by the team. “I apologize to those I offended along with all of the members of Wisconsin’s Marching Band.
“I also apologize to the Lions’ organization and my teammates. I understand the standards to which we should conduct ourselves, and my actions Sunday fell dramatically short of those standards.”
Team President Tom Lewand, who personally apologized to Leckrone on Monday, issued this statement:
“After investigating the matter and discussing Sunday’s events with Dominic, we are pleased that he has taken ownership of his actions and admitted those actions were wrong and unacceptable,” the statement read.
“As we said yesterday, his actions were not reflective of the standard of behavior that we expect from any player or any member of our organization.
“We are also pleased that he is supporting his apology with a significant donation to the Wisconsin Marching Band Fund.
“Due to Dominic’s sincere and appropriate response, there will be no additional disciplinary action by the team.”
Or, according to Fox Sports Detroit, the NFL.
What does Packer coach Mike McCarthy have to say about this? From WTMJ-TV:
“I saw the headline,” said McCarthy about the story. “We love the Wisconsin band. I don’t know what he’s thinking about, saying anything negative to the band.”
He explained that the UW band has a “phenomenal reputation. They did a great job yesterday.”
So here is an exclusive preview of the next UW Marching Band halftime show (which will include Raiola’s continually marching around the Camp Randall Stadium turf until the show ends or he drops, whichever comes first):
The Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto compares U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D–Illinois) …
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. . . . Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
… with the petulant brat at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.:
If the borrowing limit isn’t raised, “the whole world will have problems, which is why, generally, nobody’s ever thought to actually threaten not to pay our bills,” said Mr. Obama in an address at a construction company in Rockville, Md., on Thursday.
Taranto adds:
So which is it? Is a threat not to increase the debt ceiling a threat “not to pay our bills,” or is it “a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills”? It’s difficult to see how these two statements are anything other than a direct contradiction.
When you have trillion-dollar deficits, well, you can’t pay your bills.
Meanwhile, for those who claim the federal government cannot possibly cut anything in federal spending, Nick Gillespie of Reason provides them with a list of things to cut:
Much of what the feds spend money on is either unnecessary or ineffective … or both. The sequestration and the shutdown force voters and politicians to engage in serious and hopefully consequential cost-benefit analyses.
Start small, with something like arts funding, which comes to $1.8 billion annually for “the whole suite of federal arts-related agencies,” according to The Arts Index. That total is dwarfed by the $13 billion that Americans donate to cultural nonprofits and the $150 billion that we spend on art, music, movies and the like. …
Whole agencies are demonstrably ineffective. The Department of Education was created in 1979, and its annual budget for K-12 education comes in just shy of $40 billion. Test scores for high-school seniors on the National Assessment of Educational Progress – called the Nation’s Report Card – are either flat or slightly below where they were before the department existed.
Then there’s Defense, which is one of the single-biggest items in the federal budget. The U.S. accounts for 40 percent of global expenditures on military might and, in real dollars, our defense spending rose nearly 80 percent between 2001 and 2012. As the shutdown entered its second week, The Dayton Daily News reported that the Pentagon is sending half a billion dollars’ worth of “nearly new” cargo planes to a storage facility in Arizona, where they will join $35 billion worth of other unnecessary aircraft and vehicles.
When leaders like Representative Nancy Pelosi claim “there’s no more cuts to make,” I have to wonder whether they are tripping on powerful hallucinogens – whose availability undercuts another unnecessary, ineffective and costly federal program: the war on drugs.
Gillespie doesn’t put a price tag on the war on drugs, but his short list totals $77.3 billion, which surely is a good start.
People who have watched politics for a while know that crises usually fail to create good policy. The twin “crises” of the government “shutdown” (which as you know is actually a “slowdown” since three-fourths of the government continues to operate) and the looming debt limit have each happened numerous times in the past decades. (Government shutdowns began in 1980 after Attorney General Benjamin Civiletti ignored nearly two centuries of precedent in claiming that government funding could not continue at previous levels once the fiscal year ended Sept. 30. It is the fault of every attorney general since Civiletti and every Congress since then that previous-fiscal-year funding wasn’t restored, which proves the political value of that particular “crisis.”)
The debt crisis apparently has an actual date, Oct. 17. The government “shutdown” doesn’t have a deadline date, though more and more activities apparently won’t get funded as the “shutdown” continues.
Pundits may well be correct in reporting polls apparently blaming House Republicans for the “shutdown.” (Given that all appropriations are required by the U.S. Constitution to originate in the House, to use an IT phrase, that’s a feature, not a bug.) Pundits are incorrect in claiming that the longest “shutdown,” the Newt Gingrich-led event of late 1995 and early 1996, hurt Republicans. The GOP controlled the House from the 1994 elections until the 2006 elections, and with the exception of the brief departure of Sen. James Jeffords from the GOP that threw the Senate into Democratic hands, the GOP controlled the Senate that long too. The shutdown may have hurt Gingrich’s presidential aspirations, and it may have helped Bill Clinton get reelected, but it’s doubtful welfare reform and the investor-friendly tax cut of the late 1990s would have happened without the GOP’s flexing its political muscle.
The current political crises will end when it is politically advantageous to all sides concerned for them to end. In the case of the debt ceiling, that’s probably around Oct. 17. In the case of the “shutdown,” that date isn’t apparent, but it will be when Barack Obama, Senate Democrats and House Republicans figure out how to do something that will politically benefit all of them. Politics is about getting elected and reelected, after all.
My favorite Ray Charles song was number one today in 1961:
Today in 1969, the BBC’s “Top of the Pops” refused for the first time to play that week’s number one song because of what singers Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin were supposedly doing while recording “Je T’Aime … Moi Non Plus”:
According to a classmate of mine, Madison radio stations play Britain’s number one single today in 1971 too often:
What a day Monday was. Mary Burke is running for governor, and J.B. Van Hollen is not running for attorney general.
I may comment on those later this week. You really want to know what’s going on with Lions center Dominic Raiola vs. the UW Marching Band.
For those who didn’t see it yesterday, here is the terse word from DetroitLions.com:
We are aware of the reports involving Dominic Raiola and the University of Wisconsin Marching Band. Those reports are extremely inconsistent with the standard of behavior we expect from our players and from every member of the organization. We currently are gathering more information and will respond further when appropriate.
The writer later added about Lions coach Jim Schwartz:
Schwartz said he’d be disappointed if the reports about Raiola are true and said his players need to be “above that.”
The Detroit Free Press reports:
Detroit Lions president Tom Lewand offered a personal apology for alleged homophobic slurs center Dominic Raiola directed towards the Wisconsin band before Sunday’s 22-9 loss to the Green Bay Packers even as Lions coach Jim Schwartz insisted neither he nor any of his assistants heard the comments first hand.
Wisconsin band director Mike Leckrone said Lewand called him to apologize Monday afternoon after allegations of Raiola’s comments surfaced on Facebook and the Internet.
“He just called to tell me that he was sorry for the actions of one of his players and hoped that we didn’t consider it reflected badly on the entire organization, and asked me to convey that onto the band, which I will do (today),” Leckrone said. “I think he felt genuine concern for the people’s reaction. It was short, but we had a very nice conversation.” …
Raiola declined public comment to the Free Press on Monday, and the Lions released a statement saying they are investigating the incident.
“I didn’t hear that personally on the field,” Schwartz said. “No other coaches did. I think we’ve already released a statement that we’re going to look into it as an organization. I’d be very disappointed if that was the case because that’s certainly not the character that we want to display.”
Leckrone said he did not hear Raiola’s comments personally, but several band members relayed what was said and “were quite shaken by it.” …
Leckrone, who was near midfield close to the Packers sideline at the time, said he’s not aware of any band staff members who heard the exchange, either, and he does not have audio or video of the incident.
“As far as I’ve been able to ascertain is our band was in the end zone preparing to finish our pregame show with the Star Spangled Banner and several of them were verbally abused, assaulted, however you’d like to put it, by a player from the Detroit Lions,” Lekrone said. “To their credit, I was really pleased with the way the band handled the situation. If I’m a 115-pound clarinet player I don’t think I would do anything different. But they handed themselves very well and did what they were supposed to do, focused on their part of the performance.”
Some posters on Detroit websites claimed the band member(s) made it up, or criticized the original poster, Tom Melton, for not getting the Lions’ or Raiola’s side. (As if either would have commented, as you read a few paragraphs ago.) The fact one of Raiola’s teammates felt compelled to apologize. even before the Lions’ president did, suggests that the incident did indeed happen.
Some of the comments on the Detroit News‘ and Free Press’ stories are hilarious:
A guy who is obese by any standard and dyes his hair blonde is making fun of fat kids and questioning their sexuality?
This Lions team has a bunch of douche bags who act like they have mental problems. Does this really surprise anyone?
His comments were the only offense the Lions managed all day.
Really? Insulting band? Your OL gave up 5 sacks and couldn’t establish a running game. The Wisconsin Marching Band got into Dom’s head before the game? It would be funny, if it weren’t so Lionsesque!
“Those reports are extremely inconsistent with the standard of behavior we expect from our players and from every member of our organization.”
You mean to tell me that the Lions actually have a standard of behavior for their players??? Could have fooled me. At least Dom hasn’t been in jail, which puts him ahead of many of his teammates.a few too many ped’s before kickoff??
While not proven, if the facts stated are true Dominic Raiola should consider another career. In the NFL you prepare and beat your opponents and do not get points for insulting the band. While other players tend to be able to tune out the behavior of the fans Raiola seems to let it impact his play. Maybe it is but a coincidence but the fact that Raiola yelled at the band rather than preparing for the game might be one reason the O-line that he makes the line calls gave up so many sacks and pressures. He has a history of attacking fans with verbal tirades and obscene gestures. The fear I have is was this conduct more a problem with the system that coach Scwhartz has instilled in this team; that the team knew Calvin Johnson was not playing the day before and thus was defeated before the game even started. Why prepare for a victory in Green Bay when you already know you are going to lose, thus it is acceptable to yell at the fans. Delmas knew of the incident so either the coach did not care about his players not preparing fully for the games because they are distracted during pre game preparations or an example of the coach’s lack of focus on the discipline that results in his players committing costly penalties during the game and pre game incidents that embarrass the team before the game.
You commentators are falling down on the job. Raiola harasses the band and not a SINGLE one of you accuses him of “Badgering” them? C’mon – do I have to think of all the puns???Maybe the UW Marching Band can form an intramural football team. The Lions can come across the lake and play them and if the Lions win…IF the Lions win…they’ll finally have won a game in the state of Wisconsin.
(I think there were some seasons, though not recently, where a UW Band football team would have beaten the real football team.)
Guess the boys in the band shouldn’t have suggested that Raiola use a matador’s cape to improve his blocking skills.
Another classy move by the sad sack Lion’s. I’m surprised Suh didn’t tackle the band and stomp on their heads as a follow up.
Typical meathead athlete. Has no USEFUL skill like musicians do, but he is given piles & piles of money and women throw themselves at him, so naturally he lords it over the rest of us. He should be made to dig ditches or mop bathrooms at minimum wage for the rest of his miserable life.
It’s just that the Lions and their coach have a history that makes such allegations totally credible.
How many concussions has Raiola had? This must be the best argument yet for improved head gear. I’m sure those musicians could have carved this imbecile up verbally had they so desired.
You would think never having won a game in Green Bay in his career, he would focus on that and not taunting band members! Really not the guy to be ridiculing.
Normally, I’d be wary of making judgments with these sort of “he said” reports… but knowing how Raiola has treated HIS OWN TEAM’S fans, I’m not the least bit surprised he’d have some truly disgusting bile for another team’s band.
DetroitLionsDraft.com vouches for the initial report, and adds:
I’ve reached out, as has Tom, to the Lions Media Relations department for comment and a request to interview Raiola and Louis Delmas, who was mentioned in the piece as a Lion who tried to apologize for the actions of his teammate. Neither Tom nor I have heard back from the Lions at this point.
I also texted a teammate of Raiola’s for comment, a player who I have a good relationship. His exact text response, “Sorry man, but no way I’m commenting on that”.
I’ve had limited interaction with Dominic Raiola. I met him at a Lions training camp in either 2008 or 2009 (I can’t recall which) and did nothing more than exchange pleasantries. I ran into him again over this past summer and got the look of “I know we’ve met but I don’t know where”. That’s it. So I’m far from an authority on Raiola’s personality or how he might feel about a tuba player.
I know Louis Delmas a little better. I interviewed him while he was at Western Michigan and spoke with him informally at the Renaissance Hotel in Mobile during his Senior Bowl week. The way he is characterized is 100% in line with the Louis Delmas I know. He’s a good guy who takes both his own and his team’s reputation quite seriously.
A longtime friend of mine who is a Badger alum and a level-headed Packers fan (yes, they do exist) reached out to me on Facebook with a link to Melton’s blog. His intimation is that Raiola’s act directly reflects upon the cavalier and arrogant (those are my words, not his) leadership style promoted by Jim Schwartz.
I have to say I had a hard time reconciling that. Schwartz has enough on his plate trying to keep the Lions bound together and staying in first place to worry about how one of his players acts off the field. But I quickly realized that was a hypocritical stance. After all, I’ve criticized Schwartz at length for his inability to foster discipline and respect for the rules in his players on the field.
It’s ridiculous to suggest that Jim Schwartz advocates demeaning and bullying fans of other teams as a motivational tactic. Yet the culture he has worked very hard to foster in Detroit does bear some culpability. He wants his players to push the boundaries and to play on the edge. Schwartz himself is often truculent and vapid with the media, even in unofficial situations; I’ve seen it firsthand. He is the example to which he holds his players, and his standards of behavior are not all that desirable. …
Please don’t let the actions of one Detroit Lions player misrepresent the Lions as an organization or the fan base as a whole. Most Lions fans have for years felt about Raiola the way Badgers fans felt about Bret Bielema in his later Madison years; we know he’s a jackass, but he’s our jackass so we tolerate him. He’s always among the leading vote-getters for dirtiest player and most unlikeable opponent in league player polls. This allegation certainly falls in line with that reputation. We are universally hoping this is his last season in Detroit.
If Raiola was looking to motivate himself, he failed. This was one of his worst games in a long time, and his inability to do much of anything really inhibited the Lions offense. Perhaps it was karmic justice that he played such sour notes on the field after spending the pregame accosting the Wisconsin band…
Facebook Friend Mike Smith talks about a relative of his who complains about the cost of Lipitor:
Relative: “The cost of Lipitor is killing me and my friends.”
Me: “You are kidding, right?”
Relative: (shocked) “What do you mean? Lipitor is very expensive!”
Me: Compared to what? A heart attack might kill you. And, even if it doesn’t, it costs far, far more than Lipitor.”
Relative: “Well, Lipitor is just too expensive!”Did a little research. Omitting the possibility of death, a major heart attack costs $1,000,000 and a minor heart attack $760,000. Generic Lipitor in the 10mg size, without insurance, has a national average cost of about $425/year when purchased 90 days at a time. Yes, it cost more when it was under patent but even then it was much less than 1% of the cost of a heart attack.
The conversation was what I call “magical thinking*.” While emotions are understandable when comes to health care, we often have things backward. Instead of heralding the invention of statins, their lifesaving properties, and the money they save (compared to heart attacks), we denigrate both the drugs (“too expensive”) and their creators (“greedy!”). We single out medical companies for extra taxes. So, we get layoffs and less innovation when we need more innovation and more jobs. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/business/merck-plans-to-lay-off-8500-workers.html
Instead of insuring against big hazards (cancer, heart attack, etc.), we want 100% of our fees and medicine covered every time we have an allergy or cold.
This is nonsenseand we have to stop thinking this way. Yes, healthcare is emotional. But, I fear, without a change in thinking, someone could create a $10 pill that cured all cancer and people would be picketing with signs complaining about “profiting from peoples’ misery.” Even in nations with single-payer (government) insurance, everyone has to pay something. There is no free lunch.
With smartphones, internet, and technology there is a real chance that we can improve healthcare and make it affordable. We need to be encouraging, not taxing, innovation!
So, before I offer any other suggestions, I must exhort everyone to stop with the magical thinking. Quality health care is not, and will never be, free. …
The entire theory of “insurance” is for many to pay a (relatively) small amount so that a (relatively) rare catastrophic loss will not bankrupt a person or family. Health insurance works nothing like this, so it is not “insurance.” It is very possible my home will never have a fire or tornado. It is impossible I could live a normal lifespan without ever seeing a physician.
So, why do we think it is a good idea to have “insurance” pay for a visit to a physician or a common cold or allergy for which little can be done anyway (colds and allergies cannot be cured) other than treating symptoms? This is nuts. We have to rethink this. Life has expenses. In my world, getting an annual allergy shot should not be part of “insurance.” And, an (relatively) inexpensive physician assistant would handle this to keep costs down. Fixing this would seem relatively simple, at least in concept. But, emotions get in the way.
Many liberals accurately point out that the U.S. is the only first-world nation without some type of national health program. They see it as unjust because they believe everyone has a right to be cared for when seriously ill. …
Conservatives, who have been unfairly and illegally attacked by the IRS, will never accept it as OC enforcer since the Administration has not prosecuted a single one of the wrongdoers. This breach of civic trust makes, for C’s, Obamacare a non-starter. Yesterday’s new Christian Science Monitor poll showed 57% against Obamacare, so neither political party would pay a price for the delay. Besides, President Obama has (without authorization of Congress) waived the start of the business mandate, so the precedent exists.
We should adopt the plan of a Democrat, Bill Bradley, from when he ran for President. Every U.S. citizen and permanent legal resident should be able to purchase either an individual or family policy from the same set of policies available to federal employees and their families. There are something like 20 plans with lots of choice and lots of tailoring options.
For those who are poor, there should be a means-tested voucher (no cash value) that can only be used to purchase a policy. It would be administered by existing state welfare agencies. No new giant bureaucracy. Low cost. The voucher pays for a policy that insures against major illnesses not every time someone has a cold unless someone wants to voluntarily pay more.
Repeal Obamacare but ONLY when we can simultaneously replace it with a plan of along the lines of the above. It should be named, in the best sense of the term, The Democratic Party Health Plan. It was proposed by a D, they deserve the credit. The R’s have done a lousy job in this area of governance.
The plan will have the same restrictions (i.e., other than in an open enrollment period) as the federal employees’ plan: you can’t buy a policy the day after being diagnosed with cancer as the federal employees have. Fraud is a criminal offense. Any connection between the IRS and health care MUST be severed. …
The tax on medical devices will be repealed. We need more innovation, not less. The U.S. Department of Defense has DARPA, which offers prizes to innovation they deem useful. Perhaps we do the same in healthcare for innovations that improve care for the same or lower cost or provide the same level of care for less cost.
Yes, there is the issue of people refusing to buy a policy. Fine, if they have refused a policy, let them go bankrupt if they have major medical they cannot afford. It is time we get back to a concept of individual responsibility. It is time for “tough love.” President Reagan was right: If we subsidize irresponsible (not buying a policy) behavior we will get more of it.
Smith, who is not a political blogger, nonetheless has a few more political things to say:
I believe there is a genuine, and growing, rift between the interests of the political class inside the Beltway and the rest of the nation. It is hard to believe, but just a month or so ago, the political class was telling us it was imperative we immediately bomb Syria! Huh? In this case, L’s and C’s bombarded Congress with emails saying “don’t go to war over Syria!” According to several news reports, many members of Congress with shocked at the volume, vehemence, and unanimity of the messages from their constituents. This detachment of the people who are supposed to represent us, to me, represents a great concern.
So, we have this noisy, angry, giant impasse over Obamacare because, it appears to me, it is a proxy for these larger, and very valid, concerns. The politicians (and media) often focus on the wrong things and seem more interested in their own interests than the hard work of fixing these major systemic problems facing our nation. …
Personally, I like science where facts are paramount. I would be a terrible politician and, besides, with no real expertise in some of these areas, my solutions might not be correct.
So, my more modest goal has been to demonstrate that there are possible, better solutions to healthcare than the Affordable Care Act and that there is legitimate angst and anger on both sides.
That said, and I hate to sound like a cliché, there is far more that unites us than separates us. Stop the name-calling and aspersion casting and respectfully LISTEN, then speak. Use the ideas here as a basis for fixing Obamacare in a way of great benefit to everyone. Maybe that will be small step toward restoring civility and credibility and it will spur finding real solutions to these problems.